Barrel varmint, pros and cons. Varminting (Warmint Hunting) - what is it? Varmint gun
M26a08v 24-05-2014 19:48
Forum users, help with the choice of a carbine. I never had anything to do with rifled ones, I decided on caliber 223 rem, it remains to figure out the barrel, varmint or regular, black or stainless steel, with what twist. There is also an ambush with the manufacturer, Remington 700, Chezet 550, Tikka. In general, there are still a lot of open questions, I will be glad to study your advice and recommendations.
sv-2 24-05-2014 20:45
Teak with a regular black barrel!
TSV 24-05-2014 20:46
Help with choosing a carbine.
For what?
so that it’s easy to go hunting or just punch holes in paper?
M26a08v 24-05-2014 21:07
If possible, in more detail, what motivates such a categorical answer.
M26a08v 24-05-2014 21:09
Something the Internet slows down. On the hunt and on paper. 50/50
Konstantin Nsk 24-05-2014 21:11
quote: help choosing a rifle
What budget are you planning?
M26a08v 24-05-2014 21:12
I would like to keep within 70 rubles.
mihasic 24-05-2014 21:14
Tiger, tiger.
M26a08v 24-05-2014 21:15
I definitely do not accept domestic samples for consideration.
Konstantin Nsk 24-05-2014 21:53
If only hunting, then you can use a normal - not a varmint circuit.
If paper or paper + hunting, then varmint.
From the ones listed in the first post, in descending order:
1. tikka
2. rem 700
3. CZ 527
strelok0077 24-05-2014 22:00
quote: On the hunt and on paper. 50/50
It won’t work. For target shooting, you need a specially sharpened rifle, which will be very limitedly applicable for some types of hunting. Well, the shooting complex for paper will be any more expensive than 70tyr.
gsw hunter 24-05-2014 22:01
It all depends on the planned hunts.
Konstantin Nsk 24-05-2014 22:08
quote: On the hunt and on paper. 50/50
then varmint is better in stainless steel - tikka or rem 700
quote: a shooting complex for paper will be more expensive than 70tyr.
if I understand correctly - 70 thousand only the trunk.
Tikka varmint, probably may not fall into the announced budget.
M26a08v 24-05-2014 22:18
Hunting only from ambush, but with paper I don’t have big sports ambitions, rather entertaining shooting. And what about the bed, wood or plastic.
strelok0077 24-05-2014 22:18
M26a08v 24-05-2014 22:19
Caliber is definitely 223rem.
strelok0077 24-05-2014 22:23
quote: wood or plastic.
Laminate is optimal in terms of price-quality ratio, and besides, it is not very heavy. If it is plastic, then it is necessary with an aluminum bedding block.
strelok0077 24-05-2014 22:24
quote: Caliber is definitely 223rem.
In vain.
M26a08v 24-05-2014 22:25
And these blocks come in the basic configuration or is it just tuning.
M26a08v 24-05-2014 22:25
Why in vain?
TSV 24-05-2014 22:30
quote: Originally posted by M26a08v:
If possible, in more detail, what motivates such a categorical answer.
varmints are heavy. hands will not fall off with him to roam the woods?
on paper, on the contrary - the lungs will suck
strelok0077 24-05-2014 22:33
quote: And these blocks come in the basic configuration or is it just tuning.
Of course they do. In stocks for example from H-S PRECISION, BELL & CARLSON, CHOATE, more expensive options are generally entirely aluminum AI, KRG.
quote: Why in vain?
M26a08v 24-05-2014 22:33
strelok0077 24-05-2014 22:39
quote: The page has to be manually refreshed.
It happens.
M26a08v 24-05-2014 22:43
Forgive my darkness, I would like to know the opinion of the members of the forum about the twist. Who uses what and why.
dmitry 24-05-2014 22:43
quote: Originally posted by M26a08v:
I am not fond of running hunting, I mainly hunt beaver.
Take the usual hunting contour. 223 even with a hunting barrel will allow you to quite successfully make holes in paper. Moreover, you do not show special ambitions in this direction. Chisin 527 will fit into your budget with a stretch. Twist, I think 12 is quite suitable. Championship distances are not threatened yet.
The caliber is certainly good, but the ballistic efficiency is much lower than that of the 308.
Below for what? For their tasks, very much even nothing.
gsw hunter 24-05-2014 22:46
quote: I am not fond of running hunting, I mainly hunt beaver.
Well, taking into account that another 50% paper = then definitely varmint ...
1) Tikka
2) Rem., CZ
3)???
gsw hunter 24-05-2014 22:47
quote: Forgive my darkness, I would like to know the opinion of the members of the forum about the twist. Who uses what and why.
Why did I put Tikka in 1st place, what does she have in 223 8twist
TSV 24-05-2014 22:47
chiswick 527
as an option - chizhik in the varmint version
Not very heavy, but shoots well. but the stem is black. clean after shooting, do not leave
M26a08v 24-05-2014 22:53
And what can you tell me about reliability, build quality, barrel mileage, and what pitfalls cz, rem, and tikka have. I understand that these are the most popular brands.
VladiT 24-05-2014 23:05
quote: Originally posted by M26a08v:
Forum users, help with the choice of a carbine. I never had anything to do with rifled ones, I decided on caliber 223 rem, it remains to figure out the barrel, varmint or regular, black or stainless steel, with what twist. There is also an ambush with the manufacturer, Remington 700, Chezet 550, Tikka. In general, there are still a lot of open questions, I will be glad to study your advice and recommendations.
Varmint-barrel for firing from bipods and with multiple optics. Carrying it around and shooting hand-held is impractical. Everything has its pros and cons - a heavy rifle with a thick barrel allows accurate shooting while lying or sitting, from comfortable positions. From the positions of uncomfortable and offhand, this mass is not only hard to carry - but from inertia you will carry past the target, this is scrap. There, the center of gravity of the rifle will be 20-30 cm ahead of the descent, and for vault shooting at a moving target, you need 12-15 cm.
In short, your choice should depend on the tasks. If you carry and shoot hand-held, take a light rifle with a thin barrel.
Stainless steel makes sense if you hunt in swampy areas, in harsh conditions for metal, in terms of corrosion. He doesn't give anything more.
In terms of a rifle, I highly advise you to inspect the HOWA-1500. In my opinion, this is the best option today in terms of price and quality.
It makes sense to worry about a twist only if you are going to shoot static further than 300 meters, closer and at a moving target - it's all the same.
TSV 24-05-2014 23:08
Hova is a cheap substitute for Rem
And the barrel is almost varmint
And the beavers will love it
And on paper it will be 100% fun.
A bolt in 223 is pampering for the first barrel.
TSV 25-05-2014 12:09
quote: Originally posted by Worl:
AR-15
to declare war on the beavers?
ok bolt for training.
and not only 100, but farther will allow you to hit. first beavers, then foxes. and there will be another distance.
Worl 25-05-2014 12:24
I myself love bolts, but you need to approach the bolt thoughtfully. TS doesn't know what he wants yet.
TSV 25-05-2014 01:12
then it is better to take a good melkan
ammo is cheap. while to train, and then it will be seen what is better to choose
at least he will spend little money and some of it can be returned when selling the barrel if he changes his mind about owning it
Worl 25-05-2014 01:48
And why is there no melkan yet? nightmare. There is no life without a melkan. Melkan is a shooting range that is always with you.
M26a08v make 2 pink ones and subtract 10,000 for melkans, by the way, beavers also like it.
mihasic 25-05-2014 03:28
quote: Originally posted by M26a08v:
And what can you tell me about reliability, build quality, barrel mileage, and what pitfalls cz, rem, and tikka have. I understand that these are the most popular brands.
According to these parameters, rem is full kaka, cz is more or less, and tikka is what you need. Be like everyone else: take a tikka. In a hunting circuit, in a hunting lodge. There have been hundreds of thousands of threads like this. Everything has already been discussed two hundred thousand times. Of the inexpensive ones, if you take it on business, then tikka. If a little higher (not significant), then the browning x-bolt. The rest - by a sudden flash of passionate feeling. Rem is for masochists.
Konstantin Nsk 25-05-2014 08:11
By weight of varmint: at 223, varmint isn't that heavy.
CZ 527 varmint in 3500 laminate without optics.
The difference in weight from hunting contour 300 gr is not critical for an adult man,
and 223 varmint is quite comfortable to shoot handheld.
In terms of reliability, the accuracy of the rem 700, CZ are the same, both will shoot out of the box less than 1 MOA.
I won't say anything about the Tikka, I didn't own it.
strelok0077 25-05-2014 08:35
Konstantin Nsk 25-05-2014 08:36
quote: Only CZ rusts like a bastard.
It is better to take stainless steel and immediately into 308.
sv-2 25-05-2014 09:45
quote: It is better to take stainless steel and immediately into 308.
X-Bolt, Rover, Tika in a hunting circuit, with a black FORGED barrel! Stainless steel (if you mean consumer goods), too tender!)
Konstantin Nsk 25-05-2014 10:11
quote: Stainless steel (if you mean consumer goods), too tender!)
I have been using consumer goods from Remington for more than a year - I did not notice.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 10:24
quote: I have been using consumer goods from Remington for more than a year - I did not notice.
416. very demanding for cleaning. If "stainless" then 410 is better without sulfur, but that's another story!
And the best option, black forged. Enough for several generations.
Take X-Bolt or Rover.
strelok0077 25-05-2014 10:59
quote: I have been using Remington consumer goods for over a year.
I have been using it for over six years. No problems.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 11:20
quote: I have been using it for over six years. No problems.
Six years you can shoot Barnaul, from a water pipe!
To feel the full advantage of the 416th, after 1000 shots, with a baroscope, look into the bullet exit.
Konstantin Nsk 25-05-2014 12:28
quote: the best option, black forged
And forged in stainless steel, what's worse?
strelok0077 25-05-2014 12:57
quote: To feel the full advantage of the 416th, you need after 1000 shots
They looked in after 1000 and after 3000. The rifling went 1 mm, moved the bullet forward. There was not much heat. the barrel is still alive and I think it will take another thousand shots without any problems (at the moment it has shot 4500).
And which manufacturers use a different stainless steel? I have not yet seen any other steel on the trunks.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 13:28
quote: And forged in stainless steel, what's worse?
Stainless steel is mainly cut, for this sulfur is added
416, less resistant to wear, more expensive, shiny, can burst in the cold, requires more care (cleaning)
In general, hemorrhagic!
strelok0077 25-05-2014 13:36
quote: 416i, less resistant to wear
What what?
quote: may break in the cold
I can't even imagine!!!
quote: needs more care (cleaning)
Compared to what? If compared to black, then please excuse me, but you are very wrong.
Compared to black, there is one minus, it is more difficult to process, but the end user does not care.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 14:02
quote: Compared to what? If compared to black, then please excuse me, but you are very wrong
It is compared with black, forged
You probably know the difference between a forged knife and a rolled one made of slightly rusty steel?
strelok0077 25-05-2014 14:17
quote:
So my Rem has a forged barrel, only made of stainless steel.
quote: needs more care (cleaning)
quote: It is compared with black, forged
Are you saying that black steel resists corrosion better than stainless steel?
strelok0077 25-05-2014 14:23
quote: You probably know the difference between a forged knife and a rolled one made of slightly rusty steel?
The difference is clear to me. It is not clear what this has to do with barrel production.
The best barrels are made using the single-pass cutting method.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 14:25
quote: Are you saying that black steel resists corrosion better than stainless steel?
Under natural conditions, no.
Inside the trunk yes!
strelok0077 25-05-2014 14:27
quote: Inside the trunk yes!
Can you explain please.
strelok0077 25-05-2014 16:52
This is thermo-baric erosion. Chrome-molybdenum steel is equally susceptible to it. And the temperatures at which embrittlement occurs in the environment are not found.
And then in high-precision rifles 416 displaces chromium-molybdenum steel everywhere, apparently not in vain.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 17:20
quote: And then in high-precision rifles 416 displaces chromium-molybdenum steel everywhere, apparently not in vain.
Watching whose manufacturers Price, respectively!
We are talking about hunting.
strelok0077 25-05-2014 17:24
quote: We are talking about hunting
If about hunting, then in my opinion stainless steel is more practical. It is less likely to rot the barrel with it.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 17:39
quote: If about hunting, then in my opinion stainless steel is more practical
For the war, mainly 4140 goes. Stainless steel must be very expensive to be compared with it.
Hunting chromoly barrels are thinner and lighter, respectively, the balance of the weapon is more interesting, good black, polished chrome, protects against corrosion.
For hunting 4140 is much more practical! IMHO of course!
strelok0077 25-05-2014 17:43
quote: For hunting 4140 is much more practical!
With high humidity, it rusts very quickly, especially after a shot. It has been tested on our own experience.
strelok0077 25-05-2014 17:45
quote: Going to war, goes mostly 4140
Because it's cheap.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 18:10
quote: Because it's cheap.
This steel is not as simple and cheap as you think!
Mannlicher, Sauer, Mauser, Blaser and many other, not so cheap rifles with forged barrels
strelok0077 25-05-2014 18:20
quote: Mannlicher, Sauer, Mauser, Blaser and many other, not so cheap rifles with forged barrels
I agree they are overpriced
Andrey154 25-05-2014 18:37
Well, they made fun of bursting in the cold, give at least one example, do you shoot at minus 80 or less? I watched a video about Rem and T3 how they were frozen to minus 80 and not one burst or cracked.
Andrey154 25-05-2014 19:39
That's right!!! (for some reason I can't put emoticons)
chupokapra 25-05-2014 19:55
The only plus of stainless steel is increased resistance to corrosion in natural conditions, EVERYTHING! The rest is business!
Konstantin Nsk 25-05-2014 20:06
quote: The only plus of stainless steel is increased resistance to corrosion in natural conditions, EVERYTHING! The rest is business!
Amers claim that the barrel resource is 10-15% more.
chupokapra 25-05-2014 21:04
quote: Amers claim that the barrel resource is 10-15% more.
But what about high-precision guns constantly changing barrels?
I think that not everything is so clear. Serpent Rynych wrote somewhere that there are rifles with black barrels, which still shoot heaps with 80,000 shots.
Konstantin Nsk 25-05-2014 21:19
quote:
Well Duc, they shoot a lot.
quote:
Yes, and somewhere else he should have a "Kladin sword"
Konstantin Nsk 25-05-2014 21:25
quote: But what about high-precision guns constantly changing barrels?
Well Duc, they shoot a lot.
quote: Serpent Rynych wrote somewhere that there are rifles with black barrels, which still shoot heaps with 80,000 shots.
Yes, and he also has to have a "Kladinian sword" somewhere
electrician 25-05-2014 21:29
with a shot of 80.000 they still shoot a bunch
Lead on subsonic? Possibly smoky? Otherwise, it is very doubtful, unless they are magical. Yes, and such a shot - so many things in a lifetime, not everyone shoots.
shooter84 25-05-2014 22:23
quote: Sauer, Mauser, Blazer, not so cheap rifles with forged barrels
Why are you misleading people??? Chrome molybdenum barrel steels are different. The 4140 listed is a barrel steel that is widely used in barrel manufacturing in the USA. For example, barrels for army snipers in the United States are made only from this steel. Several times cheaper than "stainless steel". The Germans (BLAZER, MAUSER, SAUER) use steel according to their specifications. They have their own chrome-molybdenum-vanadium barrel steel.
chupokapra 26-05-2014 01:58
quote: The Germans (BLAZER, MAUSER, SAUER) use steel according to their specifications. They have their own chrome-molybdenum-vanadium barrel steel.
Steel is such a thing that not only the specification, but each heat has its own characteristics.
strelok0077 26-05-2014 04:31
quote: For example, barrels for army snipers in the United States are made only from this steel.
electrician 26-05-2014 05:33
quote: Originally posted by strelok0077:
And for the Marine Corps they are made of stainless steel. I wonder why?
Once upon a time there was some kind of TV program about the Russian Army, in particular about relatively new sniper rifles for some period, perhaps even the SV-98 was discussed. I don't remember exactly. But that doesn't matter. In general, some elderly uncle spoke, seemingly related to the development or mass production of this rifle. According to him, at first it was planned to make its barrel black and not chrome-plated, supposedly there is something with better accuracy than black and chrome-plated. Pre-production copies for trial operation were transferred to units that were at that time conducting real hostilities in Chechnya. The rifles proved to be very short-lived, the barrels literally rotted from the inside in a short period of time. Since they initially refused to chrome the barrels, the problem was solved by making the barrel from stainless steel, and this solution went into series. Something like that.
BIJO 26-05-2014 07:30
Chupocapra, why argue? Stainless steel is better in terms of a set of properties, and 416 is optimal. The only downside is the price.
Alan_B 26-05-2014 07:47
Soldiers often prefer "black" barrels because they are more resistant to dusty conditions and more tolerant of improper cleaning. In addition, various coatings can be applied to "black" steel much easier.
But the general trend is the transition to stainless steel.
kodec 26-05-2014 09:13
forgot about the beaver
and further.
for some reason, everyone reacts to the word Varmint as 650 mm. trunk.
But there is also Tactics - 500 mm.
There is a varmint tactic - 550 mm.
Also thick, but shorter and therefore probably more comfortable.
I don’t have my own experience, consider purely in terms of the topic of the TS
strelok0077 26-05-2014 16:04
There are good rifles with a 20 inch barrel, but they do not fit into the budget of the respected T.S. except for the Rem 700 SPS Tactical.
chupokapra 26-05-2014 17:23
quote: And for the Marine Corps they are made of stainless steel
For the Marine Corps, the main thing is heavier, but I don’t care what!
TSV 26-05-2014 18:41
well, everything was mixed up. even the Marines were remembered.
all such cool special forces that you must give a golden trunk?
the author does not seem to be going to dive into the sea and shoot from under the water
own rifle is not state-owned. on state-owned shit, they clean with bricks, or they don’t clean at all.
so do not confuse a goblin from the army and a hunter-owner.
Chezetka varmint lays without tension for half a minute for a hundred series of 5
good enough for hunting
again, no one forbids wiping the trunk immediately after returning
if you don’t chase decorations (all sorts of bolt knobs, stock replacements, bolt tunes, etc.), then this is a workhorse: it got it, fired it and hit
without hemorrhoids and dances
chupokapra 26-05-2014 20:57
quote: then Chezet is a workhorse: he got it, shot it and hit it without crap and dancing
There is another iron, workhorse, without frills, Sabatti Rover.
It doesn’t break off, it’s not capricious, it has a good coating, it shoots very accurately, it’s light, it’s not expensive. It’s in stainless steel, but black is better, it’s more reliable and doesn’t shine like chocolate foil
VSFR 27-05-2014 12:38
quote: Originally posted by chupokapra:
but black is better, it is more reliable and does not shine like chocolate foil
Like stainless steel is not covered with anything?
Do not carry nonsense, stainless steel is better on a hunting trunk.
irts 27-05-2014 13:52
I have stainless steel. yearns everywhere and how it will turn out and I do not regret at all.
chupokapra 27-05-2014 14:15
quote: Like stainless steel is not covered with anything?
If you cover it, then black is better!
quote: Do not carry nonsense, stainless steel is better on a hunting trunk.
IMHO forgot to put! That's what I see all the hunters pounced on the stainless steel! 99% of the whole market, hunting weapons are made of chrome molybdenum.
strelok0077 27-05-2014 14:30
quote:
Because it's cheaper and more!
mihasic 27-05-2014 15:46
quote: That's what I see all the hunters pounced on the stainless steel! 99% of the whole market, hunting weapons are made of chrome molybdenum.
No. Hunters really buy stainless steel more often. Stainless steel is simply better in every way.
ALEX55555 27-05-2014 16:01
quote:
In which all, specify mikhasik? No, really, what advantages does stainless steel have besides less susceptibility to corrosion?
strelok0077 27-05-2014 16:02
quote: Stainless steel is simply better in every way.
I completely agree. In our region, everyone who has the opportunity is trying to switch to stainless steel. Under the conditions of long-term hunting in the taiga and mountains, the weapon lives much longer. It has been verified from my own experience and the bitter experience of my hunting comrades.
mihasic 27-05-2014 16:13
quote: Originally posted by ALEX55555:
In which all, specify mikhasik? No, really, what advantages does stainless steel have besides less susceptibility to corrosion?
Are you the first day on the forum?
- high wear resistance;
- accuracy;
- Easier cleaning.
ALEX55555 27-05-2014 16:23
quote: - high wear resistance;
well, yes, a hunter with his shot only needs to be bothered by the wear resistance of the barrel
quote: - accuracy;
the usual Tikka T3 and Stainles will show different accuracy with a gross cartridge, so you want to say? Are all varmints made in stainless steel? Do you think fighting for tenths of an MOA is also for hunters?
quote: - easier cleaning
here you are probably right, probably, because I didn’t have a barrel in stainless steel and I can’t say anything about cleaning. But the easier it is to mihasik, polish the barrel and cleaning will not be difficult with any barrel. Again, the hunter’s shot is not great and bother with complexity not worth cleaning.
strelok0077 27-05-2014 16:29
quote: No, really, what advantages does stainless steel have besides less susceptibility to corrosion?
In conditions of heavy hunting, corrosion resistance covers everything. My friend simply rotted his CZ in ten days in the taiga, although he cleaned it every day.
Speaking of cartridges, the centaur is all rusted out!
mihasic 27-05-2014 16:33
quote: here you are probably right, probably because I didn’t have a barrel in stainless steel and I can’t say anything about cleaning. But the easier it is to mihasik, polish the barrel and cleaning will not be difficult with any barrel. bother with the complexity of cleaning is not worth it.
So no one says that black trunks are good for nothing. They are quite serviceable, but the black barrel has no advantages over the stainless steel, but the stainless steel does have it over the black one. At this point, everyone judges for himself how significant these advantages are, but the general trend is such that, for example, rifles with black barrels simply disappear from stores in our country: there is no demand for them, everyone takes stainless steel. I myself have one rifle in stainless steel and the other black, so the difference is very noticeable to me.
strelok0077 27-05-2014 16:35
quote: easier cleaning
I would not say. They are cleaned just the same.
quote: accuracy
It depends more on the quality of the barrel than on the grade of steel.
I repeat, corrosion resistance covers all the far-fetched shortcomings of stainless steel.
yandron 27-05-2014 16:39
quote: My friend just rotted his CZ in ten days in the taiga
Fantastic.
strelok0077 27-05-2014 16:50
quote: Fantastic.
What is fantasy?
At 10 in the morning, a shot was fired, while the trophy was butchered and finished to the hut, it was 17 hours. It was raining all the time. During this time, just a fur coat of rust formed in the barrel. After a very thorough cleaning, a rash remained in the barrel. The next day, CZ did not shoot, but all day then rain then fog in the evening, the barrel inside is again rusty. And so every day. By the end of the hunt, there were already very decent shells in the bore.
ALEX55555 27-05-2014 17:06
quote: At 10 in the morning, a shot was fired, while the trophy was butchered and finished to the hut, it was 17 hours. All the time in the rain. During this time, just a fur coat of rust formed in the barrel. After a very thorough cleaning, a rash remained in the barrel. The next day, CZ did not shoot, but all day either rain or fog, by evening the trunk inside is again rusty. And so every day. By the end of the hunt, there were already very decent shells in the bore.
Again, fantastic. I have a Browning, but as you say it does not rust, although the conditions of my hunts are not greenhouse. Maybe the CZ are rusty or these shells were long before your hunt, but it’s impossible for them to form in a day, fantastic.
strelok0077 27-05-2014 17:26
quote: Again, fantastic. I have Browning, but as you say it does not rust, although the conditions of my hunts are not greenhouse. Maybe the CZ are rusty or these shells were long before your hunt, but it’s impossible for them to form in a day, fantastic.
CZ cited an example precisely because the steel from which it is made is very weakly resistant to corrosion. For example, Tikka or Blazer are much more stable and there were no such problems with them, I won’t lie, but a slight rust coating sometimes happens. If you leave a black barrel of any manufacturer after a shot not cleaned for a couple of days in conditions of high humidity, it will certainly rust.
The weapon was new and the shells formed not in a day, but in ten days.
dmitry 27-05-2014 17:45
quote: Originally posted by strelok0077:
During this time, just a fur coat of rust formed in the barrel. After a very thorough cleaning, a rash remained in the barrel. The next day, CZ did not shoot, but all day it rained then fog in the evening, the barrel inside was again rusty. And so every day. By the end of the hunt in the bore already had very decent shells.
#104
Nails would be made of these people. Weapons rot, and they hunt hard in the wet taiga. You are a storyteller, dear.
strelok0077 27-05-2014 17:58
quote: Weapons rot, and they hunt hard in the wet taiga. You are a storyteller, dear.
We hunt in the wet taiga and the weapons rot. I won’t convince you of the veracity of my words, think what you want.
strannik 27-05-2014 18:59
quote: Are you the first day on the forum?
Okay, so here it is, besides being less prone to corrosion:
- high wear resistance;
- accuracy;
- Easier cleaning.
Everything is on point. Mihasik is right.
quote: Army men often prefer "black" trunks, because they are more stable in high dust conditions and more tolerant of improper cleaning. In addition, various coatings can be applied to "black" steel much easier.) CSKA can choose weapons?
Following the first and third points of Mihasik's post, explanations "why the army team
prefer "black" trunks, should be multiplied by "0".
dmitry 27-05-2014 20:28
quote: Originally posted by strelok0077:
On occasion, ask the guys from Primorye why they cover their weapons with car anticorrosive and chase stainless barrels all over the country.
I know what Primorye is. And chizu shot in the trash. Only her trunk died from being shot. And not from fabulous corrosion.
chupokapra 27-05-2014 20:52
quote: By the end of the hunt, there were already very decent shells in the bore
Who are you talking to! Hunters are also present here, and not just office plankton, Mosinki, Mausers (even Kopanina), during the Second World War, they are still shooting! What the fuck shells in 10 days!
Konstantin Nsk 27-05-2014 20:54
quote: Is it your first day on the forum?
Okay, so here it is, besides being less prone to corrosion:
- high wear resistance;
- accuracy;
- Easier cleaning.Everything is on point. Mihasik is right.
+100
quote: Tsu: "black" - "stainless" - it's up to you, the contour is varmint, I recommend the caliber - 308WIN, Rem700 or Tikku T3. It is better to take a barrel with flutes.
everything is right
Serg1 27-05-2014 23:14
quote: If you leave a black barrel of any manufacturer after a shot uncleaned for a couple of days in conditions of high humidity, it will certainly rust.
The weapon was new and the shells formed not in a day, but in ten days.
In stores, weapons sometimes lie for months after shooting, and no rust after cleaning, not to mention the shells. True, there is no high humidity, but greenhouse conditions are far from everywhere.
quote: At 10 in the morning, a shot was fired, while the trophy was butchered and finished until the hut was 17 hours. All the time in the rain. During this time, just a fur coat of rust formed in the trunk. After a very thorough cleaning, a rash remained in the trunk.
Is that in 7 hours? And what did they clean? Modern specialized weapon oils, as a rule, leave a protective film on the treated surface, and in order not to shoot, but simply to transfer the weapon, get shells in the barrel, especially
quote: After a very thorough cleaning
what kind of climate should it be? In it, then the car body should rot through and through in a month.
chupokapra 28-05-2014 09:15
quote: Well, then, besides less susceptibility to corrosion: - greater wear resistance; - accuracy; - easier cleaning.
1-Accuracy (for hunting) is the same.
8- EXPENSIVE!
DO YOU NEED IT?!
VSFR 28-05-2014 13:09
quote: Originally posted by chupokapra:
2-Resistance to corrosion - if cleaned, the same.
3-wear resistance is lower! The barrel is softer, prone to scuffing, dents on the barrel. remain at the slightest contact with solid objects!
4-The barrel is cut, therefore thicker, heavier.
5-Cleaning is more demanding!
6-Glitters, unmasks, requires coating (which tends to fly off from stainless steel!)
7-muzzle cut and bullet exit burn out faster!
If not a secret, such knowledge from the Internet?
Because if they were the owner of a stainless steel barrel, they wouldn’t write such garbage.
2 - resistance is different, even black steels sometimes rust one more one less. That is, everything still rolls to one, plus stainless steels, only one rusts less, right?
I agree, but what a fat plus
Moreover, cleaning, chrome, they say, is easier than cleaning stainless steel!
VSFR 28-05-2014 15:18
quote: Originally posted by chupokapra:
For all the other cons
What are the mythical cons? Do you even understand what the conversation is about? What's with the cleaning?
The point is that stainless steel is good for harsh operating conditions.
You are a real troll.
mihasic 28-05-2014 15:32
quote: Originally posted by chupokapra:
For the sake of all the other minuses, you can clean it!
Moreover, cleaning, chrome, they say, is easier than cleaning stainless steel!
Crap. But where, where are the "other minuses"? At least one? The accuracy of stainless steel is higher, otherwise the high-precision specialists would not have switched all the polls to stainless steel. The burnout of a stainless barrel is less, this is confirmed by the opinion of barrel manufacturers, there was such a topic here. "The barrel is heavier"? Complete nonsense, you, apparently, have never had a stainless steel barrel. Price? From five to twenty percent of the difference - is it significant? And this one... it seems that everyone here agrees, except, of course, you, that cleaning stainless steel is no more difficult than cleaning black. And I personally, the owner of both, from many years of experience, believe that even cleaning stainless steel is easier. So there is no need to start disinformation, and even with an exclamation point.
ALEX55555 28-05-2014 16:36
quote: Crap. But where, where are the "other minuses"? At least one?
Like a thorn in the background of the forest and the beast, your manipulations with a rifle are more likely to be seen than with a black barrel.
quote: otherwise, high-precision specialists would not have switched all without exception to stainless steel
in the benchrest all the rifles are in cheerful colors, do we hunters with pink butts also need to go into the forest or can we remain unconvinced?
mihasic 28-05-2014 16:47
quote: Like a thorn in the background of the forest and the beast, your manipulations with a rifle are more likely to be seen than with a black barrel.
Well, in my opinion, the person is frankly not in the subject. And if not in the subject, so why be dishonored?
quote: in the benchrest all the rifles are in cheerful colors, do we hunters with pink butts also need to go into the forest or can we remain unconvinced?
And this is already conscious demagoguery, a substitution of the thesis.
You, ALEX55555, are deliberately trolling the topic, I will not answer you. And yes, do business with you. Trolls are simply intellectual swindlers, dishonest people.
ALEX55555 28-05-2014 17:01
quote: You, ALEX55555, are deliberately trolling the topic, I will not answer you. And yes, do business with you. Trolls are simply intellectual swindlers, dishonest people.
Yes, yes, mikhasik, you have been noticed when you have nothing to say, you start to hysteria and throw poisonous saliva. I don’t need your answer, all your tantrums are familiar to many here, it’s not new.
quote: Well, in my opinion, the person is frankly not in the subject. And if not in the subject, so why be dishonored?
Go hunting before you smack your lips stupidly
kodec 29-05-2014 09:25
quote: the beast will see your manipulations with the rifle You already spat on everyone, now it turns out that the senior officers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia did not please you either.What class are you from?
chupokapra 29-05-2014 13:51
quote: What class are you from?
Well, this is a joke!
In general, I know what I'm talking about. Let's just say that I know this topic from the inside!
Varminting as a type of sport hunting is extremely common in the USA and is rapidly gaining popularity in Russia. Created for fans of varminting ORSIS SE Varmint designed for sports and special types of hunting. The rifle is made on the basis of a multi-shot bolt group with two lugs. A heavy, free-floating trunk is installed in the model ORSIS from stainless gun steel, obtained by the method of single-pass cutting. This method, called the "technology of champions", is the most advanced, because. most world records in shooting sports have been set using rifles with barrels made in this way.
The rifle is made on the basis of a multiply charged bolt group with two front lugs. In the basic configuration, the metal parts of the rifle are in a matte finish. A heavy, free-floating trunk is installed in the model ORSIS from stainless gun steel, obtained by the method of single-pass cutting. Dowels are made on the barrel to facilitate and reduce cooling time.
trunk outline - Tactical, barrel length 24 inches (609.6 mm), muzzle diameter 22 mm. The rifle is equipped with a muzzle brake-compensator ORSIS, model 008. Glass bedding¹ and pillar bedding² are standard.
Gunmetal stock with adjustable cheek and butt pad. Colors -
rifle stock models ORSIS Varmint
- M5 (cheek and butt pad adjustment);
- M3 (cheek and butt pad adjustment).
All stocks have lower swivels for attaching bipods, it is possible to install Eurotires.
The rifle is equipped with an original trigger mechanism developed in the company's own design office. The design of the mechanism is isolated from external influences.
Trigger modifications:
- Standard - allows you to adjust the free play and force from 750-850 g.
Rifle weight from 4.5 kg.
Most rifles ORSIS, produced by the Promtekhnologiya company, has an accuracy of fire of no more than 0.5 MOA.
¹ glass bedding- making a "bed" for the bolt group from an epoxy composition with a filler (aluminum or steel). With the help of Glass bedding, a large area of contact between the bolt group and the stock is achieved and, as a result, less specific pressure on the stock; the absence of micro-displacements of the bolt group relative to the stock when fired; no deformation when tightening the screws; lack of response to changing atmospheric conditions, which is a rather important factor in improving the accuracy characteristics of a rifle.
² pillar bedding- insertion of bushings (large size to reduce the specific pressure on the stock) in the places where the bolts for fastening the bolt group pass through the stock.
Do you have any questions?
The Remington 700 Varmint SF rifle is a weapon created according to all the canons of varmint hunting. It has excellent ballistic qualities and allows you to hit small targets at distances up to a kilometer. Like everything created under this brand, it is very simple in design and affordable, while not yielding to premium models in terms of its characteristics.
Description rifle Remington Varmint SF
Repeating rifle with a bolt (longitudinally sliding) bolt. In its design, much is borrowed from the legendary Mauser 98 carbine, but there are also its own unique solutions that have been adopted by other arms companies. For example, triple locking of the barrel bore (branded "three rings of steel"): two bolt lugs; a larva fitting the bottom of the sleeve and entering the chamber; a receiver of a cylindrical shape, coupled with a threaded barrel.
The model abbreviation says almost everything about this weapon.
- Varmint- a sniper rifle for shooting at small targets at very large (up to a kilometer) distances, mainly from a prone position or using a bipod. Small caliber, cartridges with light bullets, having a high muzzle velocity (from three speeds of sound) and a flat flight path.
- Stainless- stainless steel barrel.
- Flute- six flutes (wide grooves) on the outer surface of the barrel for effective cooling and additional rigidity.
The barrel of the Remington 700 Varmint SF is console, thick-walled (match), in the body of which most of the vibrations that affect the ballistics of the bullet are damped. Its interesting feature is the muzzle chamfer, made in the form of a shallow funnel (crown). Thanks to her, the powder gases when leaving the barrel are evenly distributed and focused on the bottom of the bullet, giving it an additional impulse.
A weapon with such a barrel has an accuracy of combat that does not exceed 0.5 MOA.
Remington 700 Varmint SF - 223 Rem (photo)
Advantages and disadvantages
- Very simple and reliable design. Thick-walled match barrel with burnished rifling has excellent internal ballistics. The rifle fight is heaped, the recoil is negligible.
- The surface of the barrel has been treated to form a matte, non-reflective finish on which scratches are not particularly visible, so the weapon can be handled quite freely, observing only the usual precautions.
- The stock of the rifle is plastic, with a massive aluminum insert that dampens vibration and torque that occurs when a bullet passes through the bore. Its form, though simple, is not devoid of grace. There are models in which the stock is equipped with elastron pads on the forearm and pistol grip, which increase the grip and make the weapon look more attractive. The cover of the stock is rough, comfortable to hold.
- The comb of the stock is straight, parallel to the axis of the barrel, which is not recognized by all hunters as a particularly good solution for offhand shooting. There is a shock-absorbing butt pad, which is not adjustable.
- Ventilation holes are made on the upper surface of the forearm, which increase the efficiency of barrel cooling at a high rate of fire.
- Trigger mechanism with adjustable trigger pull, but with a very short stroke. This is the accepted standard for sporting rifles and is not accepted by all hunters.
- The store is built-in, its lid serves only to unload cartridges, and it can only be loaded from above, through the cartridge case ejector window, which is not particularly convenient and almost impossible if a bar is installed, and not brackets for optics.
- The trigger guard is narrow and obviously overloaded with controls. Inside it there is both a magazine hopper lever and a shutter release button. All this is designed for a leisurely shot after careful aiming, but not for dynamic shooting offhand.
- The Americans have provided a special security measure, thanks to which you can be sure that random people, for example, children, due to thoughtlessness or inexperience, will not be able to use weapons, causing harm to themselves and others. To do this, on the butt plate of the shutter there is a button with a figured cutout for a shaped key. Turning it locks the bolt in the open position. As an option, instead of a button, there is a through hole into which the shackle of the lock that comes with the delivery is threaded.
- The shooter requires care and accuracy when operating the rifle controls. For example, if you do not bring the safety box all the way back, then a shot is still possible, but there is no visual warning about this.
Due to the thick-walled barrel, the rifle is much heavier than the larger caliber models. Her weight is 3.9 kilograms. For comparison, the Browning BAR semi-automatic in 30-06 caliber weighs 3.2 kilograms.
purpose
This is a long range sniper rifle. Possible use cases are: varminting - the actual hunting of small animals such as gophers, raccoons, prairie dogs, coyotes, stray dogs, or benchrest - shooting sports for accuracy and range in bursts of five rounds.
Varieties
Almost the same is the SPS Varmint rifle. It features a blued barrel without flutes and a black stock. The range of calibers is twice as wide, including the very rare 204 Ruger (5x47 cartridge).
Specifications
Design
- Bolt-action rifle. The barrel is cantilever, made of stainless steel, thick-walled (match), with six flutes and a muzzle chamfer in the form of a shallow funnel. The cuts are made by turning.
- The receiver at the breech breech is round, milled from a single piece. The connection with the barrel is one-piece, threaded.
- A bolt with two lugs, a drummer with a striker and a mainspring is located inside its stem. Trigger mechanism of direct action, with one sear. It is possible to adjust the force on the trigger.
- The safety box is behind the bolt handle. It blocks only the sear, so it is strongly not recommended to pull the trigger, even if the rifle is on the safety (the flag is moved all the way back).
- On the butt plate of the percussion mechanism of the shutter (left) is a safety button to lock the shutter in the open position. A variant is possible - a through hole for the lock shackle.
- The store is integrated, with an opening lid, the lever of which is located on the front branch of the trigger guard. In the same place, but at the top, there is a button for unlocking the shutter, which is used when disassembling the rifle.
- The stock is plastic, semi-pistol. A stock with a straight ridge parallel to the axis of the barrel. The butt pad is shock-absorbing, unregulated. A number of holes are made on the forearm for better cooling of the barrel.
- Two ring swivels for attaching bipods are fixed on the forearm.
- There are no external sights. A rail or bracket for an optical sight is mounted on the receiver, on which four holes with metric threads are made.
Equipment REMINGTON 700 Varmint SF
Completion and packaging
The rifle comes in a cardboard box with a foam shock absorber. The shutter has been removed.
Supplied with a screwdriver to adjust the trigger force, a secret key for the security button or a lock with a long shackle. Attached is a certificate and instructions.
Operating principle
The drummer is cocked when the bolt is sent forward, at the moment it passes the last four millimeters of travel and lowers the handle down. It is removed from it automatically by turning the handle up. It is possible to close the bolt without cocking the drummer, for which you need to hold its protruding end on the butt plate of the bolt with your finger and at the same time lower the handle.
- The longitudinally sliding bolt in the closed state is engaged by two lugs on the receiver. The shutter larva wraps around the bottom of the sleeve and enters the chamber.
- The magazine hopper is loaded with cartridges from above, through the cartridge case ejector window in the receiver. After laying the latter, you can add another one and send it to the chamber. If you want to leave the chamber empty, you need to sink the stacked cartridges down into the bunker, and hold the bolt head over them.
- The bunker is unloaded by pressing the lever on the front branch of the trigger guard, after which the lid opens.
- The trigger safety catch has two operating positions: all the way forward "Fire" and all the way back "Stop". Only the sear is blocked, the drummer remains cocked and able to prick the cartridge primer. Therefore, it is absolutely impossible to pull the trigger, hoping that the shot will not happen. You can achieve the opposite. If you do not bring the flag all the way back, leaving it in the middle position, the sear will not block.
- The safety mechanism is located on the left side of the recoil pad. This is a button with a figured cutout or a through hole. The shutter handle rises and it is retracted. The key from the delivery set is inserted into the figured cutout and rotated counterclockwise until a white dot appears, visible from behind, from the butt. In this position, the shutter cannot be closed. The trigger is blocked, the weapon is safe.
Disassembly
- Put the fuse in the "Stop" position.
- Unload cartridges from the hopper by pressing the button on the trigger guard.
- Open the shutter and take it back.
- Press the button under the trigger guard to unlock the shutter.
- Pull out the shutter.
- Unscrew the screws on both sides of the trigger guard and in front of the magazine hopper.
- Separate the trigger guard, stock and barrel assembly with the receiver and trigger mechanism.
- Knock out the rear pin of the trigger mechanism, remove the sear (do not lose the spring).
- Knock out the front pin of the trigger mechanism and remove it together with the safety lever.
You can also disassemble the shutter.
- Fix the butt plate of the bolt in a vise (you can use the safety button), move the cocking tooth of the striker back so that a slot appears at its end.
- Insert a flat head screwdriver or a coin into the slot.
- Pull the shutter stem and remove it from the percussion mechanism assembly with the larva.
- Unscrew the percussion mechanism (the butt plate and striker coupling with the spring is threaded).
tuning
The design of the rifle allows you to replace the stock and trigger mechanism.
Read about the prices and reviews of the Remington Varmint SF carbine below.
Rem 700 Varmint SF 308 Win (photo)
Prices
The official website of the manufacturer announced the starting price of $991. In gun shops, the Remington Varmint SF rifle is offered at prices ranging from 82 (223 Rem) to 120 (308 Win) thousand rubles.
Even insiders often have little to say when the name "Orsis" is mentioned. The Moscow-based firm supplies a wide range of precision rifles. Now this weapon is also available in Germany. We tested the Orsis Varmint in .308 Winchester.
The receiver is fixed with two screws to attach the stock behind the trigger guard and in front of the receiving window for the magazine. The one-piece base plate (bed) consists of a light alloy. The detachable magazine, which holds three cartridges. 308 Winchester, is made of sheet steel and is closed with a light alloy cover. There is also a ten-round version available to choose from. The magazine release button is located in front in a spacious trigger guard.
The upper side of the receiver carries a one-piece picatinny rail with a forward inclination of 20 angular minutes; it is screwed and pinned. It is clear that the manufacturer attaches great importance to the most rigid and durable structural elements for Orsis rifles. In the design of the shutter, the Russian enterprise also did not save on material. It has an outer diameter of 17.8mm.
The shutter mirror is recessed in the head of the shutter, so that the protruding flange of the cartridge is blocked. A reflector in the form of a pusher pin is placed in the shutter mirror. The shutter of the Orsis model is locked in the receiver with two lugs located in the head of the shutter. The ejector is located above the right lugs, similar to the ejector of the Sako model.
A three-position safety is located on the bolt sleeve. In the forward position, the weapon is removed from the fuse. In the middle position, the fuse is on. In the rear position, the shutter stopper is additionally activated. When the weapon is cocked, an extension of the firing pin nut protrudes backward from the bolt sleeve. The bolt handle ends with a very comfortable truncated cone when holding. For weapons belonging to the higher price segment, it seems strange that the bolt handle mount is somewhat peculiar. It is fixed on the shutter with two screws.
As the test showed, such a solution did not cause complaints in practice. If someone, thanks to this, wants to make a quick and easy replacement of the bolt handle, then he can count on it.
While all other steel parts are finished with a flawless gray Cerakote finish, the slide is polished to a high sheen. The tight tolerances and the polished breech work together to provide a very smooth locking action that deserves praise. The same can be said about the trigger mechanism, which can be adjusted in trigger pull from 500g to 900g. On our tested weapon, it was set to a pull of just over 500g and fired evenly without pull from shot to shot.
The trigger box is well closed. The control button for the shutter stroke limiter is located on the left side of the receiver jumper.
Medium stock
For the Varmint model, Orsis uses a stock made of veneer board, which is made in gray-black colors. Other color combinations are possible. For shooting from the stop, the fore-end is wide on the underside. To attach the included detachable sling swivel, as well as other accessories such as a bipod, a UIT-compliant bar is placed and screwed on the underside of the forearm.
On our tested weapons, this place could not be awarded the prize for beauty, which is probably still an isolated case. The same applies to an overly rough sling swivel screw.
On the underside, the buttstock has the usual inward curvature for today for a secure fit when shooting from a rest from a sitting or prone position.
The nape of the butt can be adjusted in height by means of a convenient rotating wheel, the same applies to the cheek of the butt. Thus, the stock can be easily adjusted to all possible types of stocks and features of shooters. A second swivel for a belt is planted on the bottom of the butt. Impeccably made bed for laying the receiver with two remote bushings made of light alloy and synthetic resin along the entire length of the receiver, as well as recesses for the recoil stop. The barrel can oscillate freely up to the recess for the recoil stop. The bed of the trunk is chosen in the box quite far enough from it. The outer surface of the stock is offered with a matte lacquer finish, as is usually the case with veneer board stocks. The fit is satisfactory throughout.
1-3. Ready to fire: when the safety flag is in the forward position, the weapon is in a combat state. Locked: the shutter is also fixed in the rear position of the safety flag. Removed from combat platoon: for an uncocked weapon, the striker extension is recessed into the bolt sleeve.
Reliable: The receiver bed in the stock is made of polymer resin laminate and light metal inserts, neatly built and up to today's standard.
Combination of tested elements
If we consider the presented weapon, then it clearly belongs to the category of conventional multiply charged systems with a manually reloaded barrel. All parts important for functioning are made extremely powerful and designed for long-term operation. However, at this point it should also be noted that there is a difference in quality between steel and wood. While the stock belongs more to the middle class price segment, the steel parts are clearly positioned in the higher price class in which the weapon is located. This confirms the quality of the workmanship of the steel parts, the high-quality coating, the smooth action of the bolt and the perfectly adjustable match trigger.
The Orsis Varmint model is delivered in a plastic case. In addition, a leather case for the shutter is included in the scope of delivery. Thus, for safety reasons, the shutter can be worn on oneself, as is usually done with benchresters.
Three-round capacity: The detachable sheet steel magazine of the Varmint version holds three rounds of .308 Winchester.
Closed: The receiver is made largely closed. The extraction window is designed relatively narrow. The loading window is narrowed due to the one-piece picatinny rail.
Shooting Range Check
All these aspects are important, but the decisive factor is accuracy and accuracy. For shooting testing, our test weapon was equipped with a Sightron optical sight, which was kindly provided to us by Heinz Henke. The Sightron SIII 10-50x60 sight was used.
They shot at a distance of 100 m using a benchrest machine. Four match cartridges of well-known manufacturers were used.
All four cartridges were loaded with 168 grain (10.9 g) HPBT match bullets. The range of cartridges for testing was supplemented by seven cartridges of our own equipment. With their own equipment, running weights of bullets from 155 grains (10.0 g) to 180 grains (11.7 g) were chosen, which are optimal for the thread pitch AND inches (279 mm).
Along with the Lapua D46 jacketed bullets, the cartridges were loaded with match bullets with an open cavity in the head, which have proven themselves in high-precision shooting. All seven cartridges of our own equipment have already been tested in previous tests of .308 Winchester match rifles.
Bullet mounting and crimping has always been done with a Wilson die, which is serviced by a small mounting press. In this way, it is then also possible to significantly reduce the skewed landing of the bullet, which is detrimental to accuracy.
The nape and cheek piece are simply and easily adjustable in height using a very convenient rotating wheel. In this case, the cheek is guided by racks. Thus, it can be adapted to all types of attachments.
For the Orsis Varmint rifle, the manufacturer promises accuracy of fire less than 0.5 minutes of arc, which at a distance of 100 m means a dispersion diameter of about 14 mm. Such accuracy is achieved by high-quality match cartridges when firing in series of five shots.
As usual with high-precision sniper rifles, we wanted to know this more precisely and tested it in groups of ten shots as needed. At the same time, the sensitivity of the barrel to heat during firing was better manifested. In this part, our test weapon never gave a single reason for criticism.
The stainless steel barrel of the Orsis rifle gave uniform circular dispersion without separation with all the cartridges used.
First of all, they fired with the muzzle brake installed. The weight of the weapon is about 5 kg (without optical sight) in combination with the muzzle brake of the Orsis Varmint rifle, chosen for the .308 Winchester cartridge, almost with a margin, allows it to become meek, literally like a tame lamb.
The recoil was felt by the shooters, as if they were firing from a match rifle chambered in .223 Remington. The level of recoil, usual for the .308 Winchester cartridge, was reached only after the muzzle brake was disconnected. With regard to accuracy, there were no significant differences between firing with and without a muzzle brake. True, there were minimal changes in the position of the midpoint of impact, which usually happens all the time.
I would like to have a thread protector with the muzzle brake detached. In general, a small suggestion from the author.
The functioning of the tested weapons throughout the test firing was flawless. The sending of cartridges from the magazine took place as smoothly as the ejection of cartridges. The work of the shooters who took part in the testing was greatly facilitated by a well-adjusted match trigger.
Ergonomically, the shutter stop button has found its place on the left side of the receiver bridge. The button is made massive and to remove the shutter cylinder simply has to be pressed on the back.
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3 rounds |
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4. Checked: Looking at the underside of the bolt with the cocking profile at the back of the bolt.
5. On two stops: the polished bolt has two lugs on its head. The bolt handle ends with a truncated cone.
6. Protected: the bolt face is recessed into the head of the bolt and encloses the cartridge flange. The reflector, made in the shutter mirror, is planted in it in the form of a pushing pin.
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DWJ Conclusions
With its cost, the Orsis Varmint model has settled in the higher price segment and, therefore, must face off with premium brands from the USA and Western Europe. The rifle makes an excellent impression due to the efficiency of shooting, as well as flawless functioning. The applied muzzle brake does its job perfectly and significantly reduces recoil and muzzle rise when fired. Worthy of praise is the same coating applied to steel parts, which steadfastly protects against weather influences. The laminate stock used should be described as more than average. At this price point, some competitors offer the high quality McMillan-A5 plastic stock.
